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what does the Ionizer feature on my HEPA air purifier do? and what HEPA purifiers are best bang for the buck?
seems like $99 Hunter Permalife i found at Lowe's is nice....they have the best price on cut-to-fit prefilters as well. Dude Man replied: "it might not be that good, you ever noticed sticky dust that is hard to wipe off? that's what you create when you use those ionizers
from EPA website:
Possible Effects of Particle Charging
Another factor with respect to ion generators, particularly those that do not trap some of the charged particles, is the effect of particle charging on deposition in the respiratory tract. Experiments have shown a linear increase in particle deposition with charge; therefore, the use of ion generators may not reduce the dose of particles to the lung8.
Soiling of Walls and Other Surfaces
Ion generators are generally designed not to remove particles from the air but to deposit them on surfaces around the room. This results in soiling of walls and other surfaces, especially if the particles charged by the apparatus are not collected on a filter" Which is safer and most effective for removing pet odors....an ionizer or a HEPA air purifier? I live close to a paper mill and have pets...so when I try to air my home out to get rid of pet odor smells....I get yucky smelling paper mill smells mixed with the existing pet odors. I'm hoping to find an air purifier that works and will greatly reduce the odors in my home since it seems I can't get fresh air in through my windows! MJ replied: "I use the ionic breeze. It works really well. I also spray my soft surfaces with ODOBAN (Wal-Mart by the Febreeze) because it kills the bacteria that causes the smells instead of trying to cover it and make it funky like Febreeze." what is ionic air purifier and what is hepa air purifier? I need to buy a air purifier. But, when I go to website see there has a lot of different kind of it.
Is any one know what is ionic air purifier and what is hepa air purifier.
Thank you for help Shawn replied: "Ionic Air Purifiers place a negative charge onto the particles it sucks through its collection grid. the theory is that the negative charge makes them heavy and they sink to the ground.
HEPA is a filtration that actually collects the particle thus purifying the air.
I have been an allergy sufferer for years and have used both types.
HEPA Is FAR Superior to Ionic at cleaning the air.
I currently use a BluAir purifier and find it to do an exceptionl job. It is a bit more costly, but way worth it for me."
J. W. H replied: "it has been proven that an air purifier really only cleans the air that is in the immediate vacinity of the instrument.. it does nothing for the entire room.. what you want is genuine air cleaner.. there is only one that I know of that actually has been proven to clean the air in an entire room.. I cannot recall the name of it but if memory serves me correctly, it is mfged in Austin tx.. do a search for air cleaners.. I believe that the fda will not allow those ionic instruments to be called an air cleaner.. because like I said.. they don't really clean the air.. the one that is allowed to use the word air cleaner is the one form texas.. look it up.. I think you will find it.. in fact, I'm going to see if I can find them because I want one myself.. remember.. only a bonified AIR CLEANER.." Cost for adding Hepa air purifier system to furnace and is it worth it? We have a newer model Lennox high efficiency furnace. I don't think that we need to replace our furnace to add this sytem on to it. How much does it cost and does it really work as well as "they" say it does? Thanks!
we specifically want it for animal dander allergies and heard that Hepa in particular protects against these. intelex22 replied: "HEPA is not worth it. HEPA has a very specific pore size to filter out particulate. When you use HEPA filters in "unclean" environments such as a vacuum or house-wide air filtration, the filters clog very quickly, loose efficiency, and cost your more to heat and cool your home. Open a window for a couple hours or walk inside wearing your shoes and you just destroyed the marginal gain you would have realized using HEPA.
As an allergy sufferer, I would recommend upgrading your home filtration using the two-step process of allergen filtration and ionization. Allergen filtration uses much larger pores on the filter, so air circulation is maintained for effective heating/cooling. Becuase it doesn't filter out a 2 micron spec of dust (like HEPA), you save on filter changes too.
The ionization is kind of like a putting an Ionic Breeze on your central air. Household distribution of negative ions will help drop suspended particles from your air, to the floor, where an effective vacuum can address them (again, not HEPA). Ionization also creates small amounts of ozone, which react with organic odors, solvents, etc. to help your home smell better and your air feel "lighter." You may notice that any "smelly stuff" that you put in wall sockets (or sprays) don't last as long or seem to work as well. The ozone will react this out of your home too.
You'll want to have your duct work cleaned thoroughly before installing this system.
I hope this helps. It is a chunk of change up front, but in the end you'll love it!" What is the less expensive Hepa air purifier? (considering filters change)? Does anyone knows a good option for a hepa air purifier considering the costs for repleacing the filters?
- Does anyone knows a good option for a hepa air purifier considering the costs for repleacing the filters? -
I am trying to find out what are the overall costs of buying an air purifier with HEPA system. How much does it costs to replace the filters and how often ? trista replied: "whats an air purifier?"
musicimprovedme replied: "I'm not sure if this is what you wanted, but I would go for one that is included on a vacuum cleaner. Some are even rinsable, so they don't need changed as often, at least my Shark is like this. Usually the HEPAs come on the higher end bagless cyclonics, but that isn't always true, and they are coming down in price all the time. There are some well within the 150 US dollar range...is that in the budget? Keep in mind this is for a HEPA machine, with a vac thrown in!
Of course, they aren't in use all the time...but if you even set it up in the corner to run for a couple minutes without vacuuming, it would clean the air nicely. And then you aren't paying elec to run it all the time.
For strictly air quality machines, you can also consider an ionic purifier. There are different price ranges, and they are good for even the teeny tiniest bacteria just like a HEPA, they kind of work on the principles of magnetism, I think (ions are "sticky") instead of trapping the particles in the microscopic grid of a HEPA filter. Plus all you have to do is wipe the metal bar inside. No maintenance costs.
One definite downside of my ionic machine, I have one called Ionic Pro, a knockoff of a Sharper Image...is that it makes a distinct irritating noise. It isn't loud, or constant. It kind of sounds like a bug zapper on extremely low volume, it is a popping/rattling sound. It also makes a little squeaky noise. For the longest time, I thought I had mice in my walls! Once I knew this wasn't the case, I was a lot better off and could tune it out."
ArmyAIRBORNE1 replied: "Sears has a few models of HEPA air purifiers that are decent....however, the replacement filters are expensive - about $100 each year. The initial cost of the one I bought at Sears was about $200...I have had it for three years, works great, but in that time I have spent an extra $250 on filters (most HEPA air purifiers also need a "pre-filter" that filters out larger particles - they are cheap, but add to the overall cost). Also, HEPA air purifiers can be quite loud because of the overall movement of air they cause...they basically work like powerful fans.
I have been researching alternatives for myself, since the filter cost is so high and I dont like the noise. After a few months of looking around I am going with the Ionic Breeze from Sharper Image. They cost a little more at the beginning, but are silent, better at trapping/killing germs, and no filters to replace. Plus, I have recently seen specials for BUY ONE GET ONE FREE....around $400."
mawarsafiyah replied: "I would suggest Alen or Sharp air purifiers if you're looking for one that's effective and economical in the long run.
Sharp Plasmacluster is a good option.The filter lasts around 5 years and the pre-filter washable. However, it's air cleaning power is not as good as an Alen's. It costs you around $260.
The Alen A250 is for small room and it's around $250. The replacement filter is around $40 and lasts for 9 mths.
There are other cheaper air purifiers like the Austin or Honeywell. However, the replacement filter costs are much higher than an Alen's or Sharp's in the long term.
So, think long term. Air purifiers are machines that will burn your pocket in the long run if you don't do the maths correctly.
Good luck!"
luh replied: "MY husband and I purshased the Oreck air purifier and it is wonderful and my husband does not snore any more." Looking for advise on allergies and getting a HEPA Air Purifier? My son has allergies and the doc is reconmending an air purifier.Do they work, would you reconmend getting one? Not sure what I am looking for when it comes to features on them and don't know what brands are good. Also I have heard about people installing some sort of purifier on their furnace. How much does this cost and does it work? Looking for any thoughts or advise. thanks starfish replied: "I've never tried an air purifier. I have a humidifier, and I find that it does a pretty good job. I might recommend trying that first, because you can find small ones that can just go right beside his bed. The small humidifiers tend to cost less than air purifiers and are really easy to use. My doctor recommended that I try a humidifier first and that if it wasn't helping enough to get an air purifier also, but I've found that the humidifier is all I need." Should I turn the "ionizer" feature on, in my HEPA air purifier? I have a HEPA air filter. It has a button on it, which turns on the optional "ionizer" feature. The system is made by Honeywell (actually a company called Kaz, which sells it under the Honeywell name.)
Any information on the helpful effects of having "negative ions" in the air? Laura J replied: "Ionize means to send harmless low electrical emissions into the atmosphere. Lightning is mother natures ionizer.
Its a negative electrical charge that causes inert particles to bond. For example, lightning causes water droplets to bond to dust particles in the atmosphere as well as other water droplets so that it gets heavy enough for rain fall.
That's why lightning always precedes a heavy rain fall.
Same thing with your HEPA filter. The ionizer makes dust particles bond, get heavy and fall to the ground or gather in your filter more efficiently.
Some people sell professional ionizers for indoor atriums, because of bird dander. It helps the fluffy stuff in the air settle to the ground." Where can I find a cut-to-fit replacement carbon pre-filter for my HEPA air purifier? In the past we bought this stuff for $10 a box and got (3-4?) cut pieces out of it. We bought it at Lowes in Burbank, CA. But, we've moved to a new city and don't know where to find it locally. The local hardware stores don't seem to carry it and I'm having a hard time finding it on-line. Could be because it's late and I'm tired and my "google-fu" is weak right now.
This looks like the air purifier that we have and be the same model:
I'm not looking for the whirlpool brand since it appears to cost about three times as much. I'd rather pay a fraction of the price and cut them to fit just as we have since we bought the darned thing.
Can anyone point me in the right direction??? DIY Doc replied: "I'll assume in moving you have no Lowes or HD local to you?
Certainly they have websites for catalog/ online ordering. Obvious to me is begin that way; but you might also connect with the MFG. for links to dealers; an AC contracting company; etc.
Initially you might not be lucky, but that's why we are gifted with choice; tenacity; and often a desire to SHOP. It might also be that ONCE at least; you'll have to bite the bullet and pay a bit more.
Steven Wolf" Where Can I find a HEPA air purifier that doesn't emit ozone? I have researched different filtration systems and I believe that some of them may still emit ozone even though they don't specifically say. Has anyone used a particular one with an Umbrella Cockatoo and/or a Severe Macaw? This is a serious matter to me because I have asthma and I love my birds, so please, no puns or jokes. Thank you. AIRIN replied: "Home Depot. I bought mine for me and my dog there."
hi tahira replied: "Home Depot.because its too good"
diane_b_33594 replied: "Oreck makes an air purifier that does not produce ozone. And the nice thing about it is that you don't get sucked into having to buy new filters all the time. You just wash the one that comes with the unit. You pay a little more initially, but they are better made and you save in the long run.
I know what you mean about wanting to keep your birds safe."
slidinqueen92 replied: "Try looking online
I am a serious asthmatic so I need them all over my house. I found ours online." Does anyone use a HEPA air purifier for pet dander allergies? If so please let me know if it really helps.? I live in a basement apt. and I have 3 cats. My nephew lives upstairs and he has bad cat dander allergies. We have an air purifier on the furnace but it does not really help. I am now thinking of getting one for his personal use in his bedroom. Does anyone know if this will help? I don't want to have to get rid of my cats, which is what they are asking me to do.Help. hrc2000 replied: "Even the cheap ones help. But, the filters don't last too long and are expensive. you'll have to just try and see if he gets some relief."
Jambo replied: "I have been using one for 5 years now. At the beginning it was fantastic and we had no problems with allergies etc.(used at highest setting) We got a spare filter with the purifier which we replaced a few months later but when we went to buy another, the price of the replacement filter was too expensive for us so I just used cotton wool pleats which work to some extent. I wouldn't be without it though.
So I would say...go for it but save up for the filters."
cutsup replied: "they help a little but the cost of filter's are pretty high. i also have an ionic breeze quadra where you just have to clean the filter but not sure of it's effectiveness"
Brett H replied: "I've had several HEPA filter units over the years due to my year-round pollen, dust and animal allergies. I had an Austin for about 5 years, and now have an IQAir HealthPro. The unit is on 24/7, at a fairly low speed because I don't want to be drowned out by it. My home office is also my bedroom, so I'm theoretically getting the benefits of it most of the day.
It's tricky trying to figure out how helpful the HEPA filter is. Overall, I'd guess it reduces my symptoms by maybe 20%. Unfortunately, the effectiveness of the device is reduced every time you open up your door and let (fresh) air in.
I'd say that getting a HEPA air filter device would be worth trying, but unfortunately I'd doubt that it's going to help your nephew much. We have two cats (Maine Coon), and they have to stay at the other end of the house, behind two doors. This actually seems to work pretty well at reducing the amount of cat dander in the rest of the house. But if i go into the part of the house where they live, or they escape and run through the house, I can definitely tell.
Maybe you can try a few things? Keeping the cats out of several rooms of the house that your nephew will be using as well as the HEPA filter in his bedroom.
Is he using any antihistamine med or nasal spray? Chances are that if he has cat allergies he also has other allergies - dust mites, mold, pollen. There are good over-the-counter med options today - Zyrtec perhaps being the strongest non-sedating option. Good luck!" |
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